2025 Season: Episode 7 with Martha Rosenthal

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“To end my pain fully, I have to go to another level beyond the rational mind. The key lies in understanding the basis of all pain, the illusion that we are separated from the source of all life. All our specific instances of hurt are only tiny instances of a single enormous hurt. As long as we remain at this level, we are dealing merely with the little branches and stems of a central root.”
- Martha Rosenthal

Host Lisa Littlebird (Wholehearted Chorus) welcomes Martha Rosenthal, co-author of Learning to Love: From Conflict to Lasting Harmony.

They explore moving from polarization to peace through Open-Hearted Listening— a simple, usable practice for couples, friends, and communities. One person speaks, the other mirrors and validates.

With Lisa’s partner John Halcyon Styn, they demo turning a tiny household snag into deeper connection. Themes include breath, humility, and the “little willingness” to soften the ego. Martha reflects on 52 years with Don Rosenthal and the enduring truth that love never dies.

Wholehearted Chorus:  https://wholeheartedchorus.org

Martha & Don Rosenthal: http://awakeningtogether.com